[2020-07-02 00:00:02 UTC] AceFlighty: Hopeful AW SHIT, I ONLY GOT 2 YEARS LEFT
[2020-07-02 00:00:10 UTC] Hopeful: ZOOMERS REE
[2020-07-02 00:00:23 UTC] AceFlighty: Hopeful NON-ZOOMERS REE
[2020-07-02 00:00:36 UTC] Hopeful: GEN Y WILL REIGN SUPREME
[2020-07-02 00:00:38 UTC] Hopeful: YOOMERS GO
[2020-07-02 00:00:44 UTC] AceFlighty: GEN Z WILL OUTLIVE YOU ALL
[2020-07-02 00:00:48 UTC] yuri_reagan: Hopeful yes but gender wasnt really a thing back then so transgender people  back then probably had it better off. and true humans lived shorter lives but that is just the way nature was.
[2020-07-02 00:01:03 UTC] Hopeful: YIKES
[2020-07-02 00:01:14 UTC] AceFlighty: yuri_reagan yeah but 'just the way nature was' doesn't make it good, ya know?
[2020-07-02 00:01:14 UTC] Hopeful: >body dysphoria isn't a thing.jpg
[2020-07-02 00:01:37 UTC] AceFlighty: Hopeful I think they mean the concept of gender didn't exist so they didn't experience dysphoria
[2020-07-02 00:02:35 UTC] Hopeful: AceFlighty you can have body dysphoria without modern day gender roles tho, and other pepo could experience body euphoria with body-mod stuff like HRT and other surgical advances PepoThink
[2020-07-02 00:02:45 UTC] yuri_reagan: AceFlighty it wasnt good for humans but overall it was good for the earth. look at humans now destroying the planet, this is not the way nature is supposed to be
[2020-07-02 00:03:04 UTC] Hopeful: yuri_reagan can you explain how nature is "supposed to be"
[2020-07-02 00:04:02 UTC] SosigBoi: body dysmorphia still exists
[2020-07-02 00:04:05 UTC] AceFlighty: AceFlighty Really? I didn't know that. So in a society where gender is abolished, there'd still be people feeling dysphoric? (Not trolling, genuinely curious. My trans friends don't really discuss politics with me cause I'm too radical for em)
[2020-07-02 00:05:10 UTC] Hopeful: AceFlighty yeah, I personally advocate for both gender and sex abolition PepoThink I would still be "trans" af even if the label became outdated.
[2020-07-02 00:05:29 UTC] yuri_reagan: Hopeful nature is supposed to rule over humanity, humanity isnt supposed to rule over nature and destroy the planet to fulfil their own selfish needs
[2020-07-02 00:05:40 UTC] Hopeful: yuri_reagan can you substantiate this?
[2020-07-02 00:06:55 UTC] AceFlighty: Hopeful Interesting. What do you mean by abolish sex? Like, biological sex, or is there something I'm missing? I know it's a spectrum, and intersex people are obviously valid AF, but I don't understand how we'd go about abolishing that
[2020-07-02 00:07:06 UTC] yuri_reagan: Hopeful these are just my spiritual beliefs, you dont have to agree. I dont want humanity to go back to the stone age, I want it to prosper, i just think that humans were not supposed to dominate the earth like we do now.
[2020-07-02 00:07:33 UTC] AceFlighty: Is non-biological sex a social construct, or something?
[2020-07-02 00:07:48 UTC] AceFlighty: I really need to read up on this stuff. Here I thought I'd figured out most of the basics
[2020-07-02 00:07:53 UTC] yuri_reagan: AceFlighty what is non-biological sex?
[2020-07-02 00:08:11 UTC] yuri_reagan: AceFlighty do you mean gender?
[2020-07-02 00:08:40 UTC] AceFlighty: yuri_reagan I don't know, I'm asking if it exists- Hopeful said they're for abolishing sex and gender, but I don't know how you'd go about abolishing biological sex. I assume there's some non-biological version?
[2020-07-02 00:08:40 UTC] Hopeful: AceFlighty sex as a concept is rather roughly defined at best, categorizing people into rough groups that only have a correlation with the actual biological traits they have, I think it would be a lot better to focus on what traits a doctor's patient has rather than the M or F on their sheet. PepoThink
[2020-07-02 00:10:01 UTC] AceFlighty: Hopeful Oh okay, I think I get what you mean. Yeah, I'm definitely down for that. Anything that'll make life easier for you guys is an automatic yes from me
[2020-07-02 00:10:54 UTC] yuri_reagan: Guys can someone explain to me how race is a social construct?
[2020-07-02 00:11:15 UTC] Hopeful: AceFlighty Honestly on the trans question tho, I don't really think of trans pepo as any different than other people who wish to modify their body. I think in a future without gender/(maybe)sex categories the only real difference is you could modify your body without the associated stigma, in much the same way you can get piercings/tattoos/cosmetic surgery not pertaining to gender now. PepoThink
[2020-07-02 00:11:41 UTC] Hopeful: obviously speaking more to people with a medical need to transition here PepoThink
[2020-07-02 00:11:49 UTC] AceFlighty: yuri_reagan race as we understand it today is a modern exclusionary tactic. People didn't have a concept of 'race' in the past- in fact, the Romans didn't particularly care what colour your skin was or what ethnicity you were, so long as you were a citizen
[2020-07-02 00:12:47 UTC] AceFlighty: It's a social construct, through and through.
[2020-07-02 00:13:51 UTC] AceFlighty: Hopeful I mean, that's a pretty good take on it, I think. Hopefully our tech advances to that point really quickly
[2020-07-02 00:14:41 UTC] AceFlighty: yuri_reagan if you want more evidence as to how race is arbitrary, consider how in the past Irish people were considered non-white, but are now considered white. It's not based on anything other than "ew, foreigner icky"
[2020-07-02 00:15:22 UTC] AceFlighty: Does that answer your question?
[2020-07-02 00:15:34 UTC] AceFlighty: Sorry if I'm a bit rambly, it's like 2:15 here lol
[2020-07-02 00:16:50 UTC] yuri_reagan: AceFlighty yes you explained it pretty well i agree with you now
[2020-07-02 00:17:19 UTC] AceFlighty: yuri_reagan A'ight, great! Glad I could sway you pepoHug
[2020-07-02 00:17:54 UTC] AceFlighty: That being said, I think I'm gonna hit the hay, guys
[2020-07-02 00:17:59 UTC] AceFlighty: GN! HUGGERS
[2020-07-02 00:17:59 UTC] yuri_reagan: unpopular opinion: I think we should genetically engineer humans to be perfectly healthy and fit using crispr. we could drastically improve the quality of life for humans who would otherwise have debilitating conditions stemming from their genetics.
[2020-07-02 00:18:37 UTC] AceFlighty: yuri_reagan Eugenics-lite is not cool.
[2020-07-02 00:18:56 UTC] Hopeful: yuri_reagan how can you be an anprim and a eugenicist PepeMods
[2020-07-02 00:20:33 UTC] yuri_reagan: I dont want to discriminate with it. we shouldnt change aspects such as race, gender and appearance.
[2020-07-02 00:21:27 UTC] AceFlighty: right, that's a can of worms I'm a bit too tired to argue against. I'm gonna go to sleep. If you haven't changed your mind by tomorrow, you can hit me up then and we'll chat yuri_reagan
[2020-07-02 00:21:46 UTC] Hopeful: AceFlighty pepoHug:asex:love
[2020-07-02 00:21:56 UTC] AceFlighty: Until then, good night, and remember to drink water
[2020-07-02 00:22:16 UTC] yuri_reagan: AceFlighty gn pepoHug
[2020-07-02 00:22:22 UTC] AceFlighty: Hopeful pepoHug:asex:love:dank
[2020-07-02 00:22:47 UTC] AceFlighty: yuri_reagan gn! huggers
[2020-07-02 00:22:51 UTC] AceFlighty: HUGGERS *
[2020-07-02 00:22:55 UTC] yuri_reagan: Hopeful as a person with numerous debilitating effects due to shitty genes, I want to prevent other people from suffering the same fate. how is this bad?
[2020-07-02 01:07:12 UTC] Xanderhal: DuckerZ
[2020-07-02 01:19:32 UTC] paula: peepoWOW
[2020-07-02 01:52:32 UTC] Walker: MortyDance
[2020-07-02 01:53:06 UTC] Walker: DICKS POOP peepoDICKS Ican use them now PEPE
[2020-07-02 09:04:34 UTC] Broadcast: TheDarqKat got a Tier 1 subscription
[2020-07-02 09:04:34 UTC] Broadcast: Finally. After so many years of dating, being abused by, and ditching straight white gamers, your rabbit hole vid finally got through to me. I'm progressive/leftist/borderline comrade. I feel like we need to support each other in this day and time.
[2020-07-02 09:15:59 UTC] TheDarqKat: Hi, I'm finally here after months of lefty creeper stalking. Once in a while you have to give in to your addiction.
[2020-07-02 09:35:18 UTC] A_PanWiithoutA_Plan: Pog:spin
[2020-07-02 09:57:38 UTC] A_PanWiithoutA_Plan: idk fam, them links work for me
[2020-07-02 21:17:06 UTC] Mx_Terious: beep
[2020-07-02 22:37:03 UTC] Shadows: crispr talks? oh word?
[2020-07-02 22:42:58 UTC] Shadows: I only wanna say bc I'm a little invested in it myself, but in general, I think eugenics is awful in the sense of creating literal perfect humans. Genetic manipulation—especially if you can PAY for that manipulation—could easily lead to literal actual superhumans. BUUUUUT that said, I think there is something to be said for it being used to eradicate debilitating chronic illnesses (sickle cell, menkes, tay-sachs, etc)
[2020-07-02 22:47:31 UTC] Shadows: Also you already know that human modification is only going to be available to the superwealthy; that is a huge glaring fucking issue when you talk about things like "making all humans perfectly healthy and fit"
